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	<title>Comments on: The Dutchmen’s Heir: Jenny Saville at Gagosian</title>
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		<title>By: Ernie Sandidge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie Sandidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how I missed this review but it is right on target. Such virtuosity often comes at the price of creativity. As if in order to master the delivery someone else had to invent it first. Very encouraging. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how I missed this review but it is right on target. Such virtuosity often comes at the price of creativity. As if in order to master the delivery someone else had to invent it first. Very encouraging. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Slawek Gora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slawek Gora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truer words have never been spoken. Thanks, David.</description>
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		<title>By: CAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Impeccably slick&#039; pretty much nails it. I think the problem really lies in her drawing. Overhead projectors are no substitute. Her drawing is just rote illustration, really. Freud happily mangles it rather than be seduced by academic standards, he cruised past it in the 50s, before setting a course for something more mannered. 

But Jenny can&#039;t let that go - too much anxiety about other things. So the facture never quite gains traction, as you note. The strokes are just so much flourish and fill, and you sense she knows it and hopes the content &#039;hurts&#039; enough to compensate. But these are &#039;chops&#039; at their cheapest. And what we get is really so much melodrama. Bacon can get away with a certain amount of that because he&#039;s prepared to play for much higher stakes - the whole picture plane in fact - and there is an outrageously absurdist sense of humor in there. But with Jenny that side of things, the Claustrophobia Meets Outsize, facture as makeup - I sense is actually on the wane.

Maternity might not be a bad time to take a good break and step back from the product for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Impeccably slick&#8217; pretty much nails it. I think the problem really lies in her drawing. Overhead projectors are no substitute. Her drawing is just rote illustration, really. Freud happily mangles it rather than be seduced by academic standards, he cruised past it in the 50s, before setting a course for something more mannered. </p>
<p>But Jenny can&#8217;t let that go &#8211; too much anxiety about other things. So the facture never quite gains traction, as you note. The strokes are just so much flourish and fill, and you sense she knows it and hopes the content &#8216;hurts&#8217; enough to compensate. But these are &#8216;chops&#8217; at their cheapest. And what we get is really so much melodrama. Bacon can get away with a certain amount of that because he&#8217;s prepared to play for much higher stakes &#8211; the whole picture plane in fact &#8211; and there is an outrageously absurdist sense of humor in there. But with Jenny that side of things, the Claustrophobia Meets Outsize, facture as makeup &#8211; I sense is actually on the wane.</p>
<p>Maternity might not be a bad time to take a good break and step back from the product for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again David, you have nailed this.  The detatched slick vs the perceptual struggle is comparable to pre to -post CGI cinema.  We loose the humanity with  it&#039;s ineptitudes  and replace it with effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again David, you have nailed this.  The detatched slick vs the perceptual struggle is comparable to pre to -post CGI cinema.  We loose the humanity with  it&#8217;s ineptitudes  and replace it with effects.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Plunkett</title>
		<link>http://www.artcritical.com/2011/10/06/jenny-saville/comment-page-1/#comment-10694</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Plunkett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 19:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice.  Something you said makes me feel good.  But, this being the web, I&#039;ll go and see for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice.  Something you said makes me feel good.  But, this being the web, I&#8217;ll go and see for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: John McNamara</title>
		<link>http://www.artcritical.com/2011/10/06/jenny-saville/comment-page-1/#comment-10629</link>
		<dc:creator>John McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article very eloquently states its case. It&#039;s not what is said, but how it&#039;s presented. 

Two experiences came to me as I read this article. They both rang true for me on a visceral level. The first was my seeing a DeKooning retrospective at the Whitney Museum many years ago. I was moved deeply by his paintings from the late 1940&#039;s through the early 50&#039;s. I remember feeling that the &quot;essence and fungi&quot; of his existence were literally present in the works. In a powerful way, they transcended the notion of art as signage. 

The second experience of equal power came in front of a Lucian Freud painting of two Buddha statues sitting on a soap stone sink with water slowly cascading toward and into the drain. Here too, I felt this sense of mental/emotional transcendence of materials into real poetic substance.This painting also nullified the idea of art as visual sign. It was, being as dramatic as the situation calls for, a case of the bread and wine becoming &quot;the body and blood.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article very eloquently states its case. It&#8217;s not what is said, but how it&#8217;s presented. </p>
<p>Two experiences came to me as I read this article. They both rang true for me on a visceral level. The first was my seeing a DeKooning retrospective at the Whitney Museum many years ago. I was moved deeply by his paintings from the late 1940&#8242;s through the early 50&#8242;s. I remember feeling that the &#8220;essence and fungi&#8221; of his existence were literally present in the works. In a powerful way, they transcended the notion of art as signage. </p>
<p>The second experience of equal power came in front of a Lucian Freud painting of two Buddha statues sitting on a soap stone sink with water slowly cascading toward and into the drain. Here too, I felt this sense of mental/emotional transcendence of materials into real poetic substance.This painting also nullified the idea of art as visual sign. It was, being as dramatic as the situation calls for, a case of the bread and wine becoming &#8220;the body and blood.&#8221;</p>
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